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EP. 1367 NORTHERN BEACHES SCHOOL SHUFFLE! FIRST NEW SCHOOL IN 50 YEARS!
Ever wondered why parents fiercely strategize around school catchments when searching for a home? This episode promises to reveal the monumental shifts in school zones set to hit in 2025, focusing on the northern beaches—where a new public school hasn't been established in nearly six decades. We dive into the influence of these changes on real estate decisions and how Australia's education system plays a pivotal role in attracting international migrants. As we unpack this complex subject, we share insights into what makes school catchments a high priority for families and how these dynamics shape local communities.
Join us for a personal and engaging conversation with Billy, who shares his unique journey through nine different schools, highlighting Freshwater Senior Campus as a standout experience. We tackle the ongoing co-ed versus single-sex school debate, exploring what elements make a school appealing from the perspectives of both children and parents. For kids, it’s all about social circles and extracurricular activities, while parents lean towards academic outcomes and safety concerns. Listen as we discuss the many factors parents juggle when choosing the best educational path for their children, and discover Billy's top picks for schools on the northern beaches.
Guys, school catchments. When you're buying and renting real estate, it is essential. Sometimes you just don't care until you care about it. We're going to talk about school catchments. This, it's a war zone out there, billy. It's a war zone, it's a big shuffle, it's the school shuffle or the shake-up for 2025.
Speaker 2:There are some massive changes coming that we haven't seen in like 40, 50 years 60 years.
Speaker 1:I cannot believe that the northern beaches has not built a brand new public school for 50 years, it's like 58 years, to be exact, um.
Speaker 2:And then there was the german school that opened, but neither here nor there a really long time, and this is like this is gonna like affect a lot of people. So, parents, listen up. If you're not, if you're not, um already on board with what the changes look like, we're going to give you a bit of an insight this morning the last school that was opened was chrome high school, my school.
Speaker 1:Is this true?
Speaker 2:you're a product of the final northern beaches opening wow, wow.
Speaker 1:Chroma high school, best school in australia.
Speaker 2:I say now do you reckon school zones are still as important as what they were on on parent shopping lists these days?
Speaker 1:these days, yeah, I reckon, worldwide and locally and domestically, like in every capacity, kids education is, uh, you know, safety, security, uh, you know, it is right up there. It is right up there and, and I think that's why australia is so popular um, because of our education system, and you know what we offer Like, make no mistake, it is top three for when an international person is looking to migrate to Australia, which I think says something about people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and we see it locally, you know, through open homes, people are making decisions on where they want to be, just so it either makes commuting easier or it makes the actual school catchment possible, because if you're out of area it makes it a bit harder to get into some of these preferred schools.
Speaker 1:Billy, you're an old man in a young man's body. Where are you going to send your kids to school, um, where?
Speaker 2:are you going to send your kids to school? Um, if I was on the northern beaches, I would well. My favorite school in the northern beaches is freshwater senior campus. I went there myself. Um, I went to nine different schools in total and that was the best, and that's across three. How many schools? I went to nine schools and that freshwater Senior Campus was the best of the lot. It was just really. It supported people that wanted to be supported and left the other ones alone, and then they didn't annoy everyone else. But it's year 11 and 12 only for the moment. However, that's about to change.
Speaker 1:Okay, I guess it's actually that's another conversation to be had co-ed or single sex. But there's two perspectives. There's the kids' perspective what a great school is. And there's the parents's the kids perspective what a great school is. And there's the parents perspective as a great school. Um, what are your records on the top shopping list for a parent, for a kid?
Speaker 2:um private school wise, I think st luke's would be up there um, sorry.
Speaker 1:The question I'm angling for is what are the elements like? What? What are the elements of? Of when you're making the decision of going to a school as a kid, or when you're making the decision of sending your kid to a school, what are the elements that you would consider as a parent, as a kid?
Speaker 2:um, as a kid, I think you really just want to be where the social group is. Now I'll give you an example. There's schools that have, you know, sort of standout reputations for offering certain things like narrowing sports, amazing sport. There's another one, I think Pittwater, that has got amazing music. So there's some schools that just have what people want, and there are them on beaches.
Speaker 1:Okay, so as a kid, you put social up there, you put sport up there, yeah absolutely as a kid yeah absolutely as a parent. What do you put on the shopping list?
Speaker 2:Results I heard Freshwater Senior Campus got was, you know, have one of its record-breaking years for ATAR results. Yeah, Freshwater and Manly Campus. So I think a good track record is good. But also I think you know, just having a bit of a walk around some of these schools, like there's a lot of public money put into them, not just in the sector, but you know you can see it's being spent well, it's well managed. Teachers are really, you know, on board.
Speaker 1:I think that makes a big difference as well I reckon, um, as a parent like I now my girls are 18, 26 and all and I went through the public system. So I went through grandma high school, northern beaches l. I went through Cromwell High School, northern Beaches, lisa went through the public system and we had a choice. First choice was public or private, and we had capacity. Geez, it was pushing ourselves, but we had capacity to go private, so we just did, probably made that decision, because there was the bandwidth, the capacity and budget to do it.
Speaker 1:Second to me was proximity. I found proximity was probably one of the most important things that you know, I guess in a school life there's what there's probably 10,000 movements to and from home, if you quality of peer, of like getting along, do you know what I mean? Like Harmony was another one where I didn't want a school that was known for, you know, like a hard environment for kids to get through, and then obviously that, like you said it, the level of education where they, where their rankings, you know probably, are put in about five. Um, and then, as a kid, uh, I just wanna when I go to school, when I went to school, I just want to have fun, um, and I wanted and I wanted to do it on my terms. Um, yeah, interesting very interesting.
Speaker 2:Now let's just show you the shake up, because this is huge. So we've got a bit of a map there for you. Now read the bottom. You'll see we've got a new school coming um and that is the. That is the green area. So the green area is the Forest High School relocation. It's being relocated. The new address is 187 Alambie Road. Like, as you drive up Alambie Road you find the shops. Get a bit higher up and you'll see the big construction site. It's got the government sort of logo on it. That's the new school. It began construction in December 2023 and its completion is anticipated for mid-2025. So I reckon six to nine months people are going to start to see that really shoot up. That's going to be coming very soon.
Speaker 1:You know what how fun Look at when the new hospital went in in a similar location up there. The tech is cool, is new, the facilities are new, the seating, everything, everything, everything like what a great environment to be yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing is the expansion of freshwater senior campus. Now that's um, traditionally being only years 11 and 12. Um, but they're opening that up from year seven to 12. Now, year seven and nine students will be able to enrol from term one, 2026, and then this school will be fully operating from year seven to 12 from 2027.
Speaker 1:So that's going to be massive huge change and are some of them? They're already co-ed. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, what's?
Speaker 1:your take on that, your take on that young 20-year-old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I never went to a single sex but I reckon co-ed's definitely the way to go. I had a lot of friends that went to Bally Boys and I know they make a big effort to do, you know, like social activities with their like sister school, which I think was McKellar.
Speaker 1:It's all the same.
Speaker 2:It's not the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh look, our kids went to a single-sex school. Yeah, I probably would have preferred co-ed, but you know, that's life. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now the intake for Bally Boys and Mackellar Girls, I think, has expanded a little bit as well. So that's all there for you little bit as well. So that's all there for you, um. And here's a list of the schools. Uh, that will be adjusted sort of the local intake. So there's your list. If that applies to you. You can find all this on the um, on the government website.
Speaker 1:I call it um, but yeah, massive change wow, well, there you go, guys, schools. I think there's some people out there going. I really don't care about this, but this is interesting. Um, it's a big factor. I think there's a good 20-year stage of one's life when you're putting your kids through school and there's probably a good uh 15-year stage in your maybe 20-year stage when you're going through school. So a good half of your life is attributed to you in school or your kids going, you putting your kids through education, or you getting education. So it's a big bloody thing. So, when it comes to real estate, I'm going to be close to good education.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so, Flavio. Thanks for leaving a comment. Comparing education from the 80s and 90s to now has changed significantly.
Speaker 1:It's real. I've got to tell you, billy I don't know if you know this, but the level of education and good comment from Flavio the level of education, how that has changed in the last 20, 40, 60 years, like wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Flavio thinks public schools are offering better education overall to some of the Catholic schools. There you go. Public Public schools, yeah, interesting. And look some of the money that you know is going into these. They're big dollars and that you know that is obviously directly impacting properties nearby. It's like 40K a year for some of these kids to go to school. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That's after-tax money as well. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Billy, have a great day. Everyone have a great day. Thanks for watching. Hopefully we'll help some people out there.
Speaker 2:See you, see you, bye.