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EP. 1346 “Canine Cafes Watch Out: Sydney’s dog-friendly spots are raising the bar!”
Ever wondered how cafes are evolving to cater to our four-legged friends? Join us as we explore the heartwarming trend of dog-friendly cafes taking over Sydney. From special seating arrangements to exclusive pet menus, we chat about how dogs have transitioned from mere backyard guards to cherished companions sharing our most cherished spaces. We throw in some delightful anecdotes and reflect on what this means for café culture and its patrons. Will we soon see dog-only menus as a staple? Tune in to discover our musings on this fascinating cultural shift.
In another segment, we take a whimsical journey into the world of pet pampering that mirrors our own lifestyles. Picture this: a plumber pushing a pram with a pooch inside or celebrities like Paris Hilton making pets the ultimate fashion accessory. We humorously question if special dog car seats will be the next big thing! Amidst all this pet-love, we humorously suggest the occasional need for a solo coffee break. Join us for a lively, laughter-filled discussion on how our pets are becoming more humanized and what it says about our ever-changing relationship with them.
As you know guys, commercial real estate we do well. And this morning, sitting in a Sydney cafe looking around, seeing people sitting on chairs around me and dogs sitting on chairs around me, and we thought we'd cover the topic today of canine friendly dog cafes. Stay tuned, cleo, it's here. How are you?
Speaker 2:Good morning, I'm hot, it's not. There's no hot, there's no air.
Speaker 1:There's no air in Sydney. We've been choked. We've been choked of air today, deprived First time this year of air. But we were a little bit funny about this topic because we were like whoa, you know, is this a real thing? It's definitely a real thing. Do people really care? They definitely care. Is this going to upset people? It's definitely a real thing. Do people really care? They definitely care. Is this going to upset people? It's definitely going to upset people and it's like, oh my God, what a topic, so rocking around with your dog in a cafe, how it's changing and how where's it going? Where's it going, cleo? Like, if it's done this in the last five years, where's it going the next five years? Let's just do that first.
Speaker 2:Well, you know that, saying it's going to the dogs, the country's going to the dogs, literally. So I feel like the cafe thing's crept up on us, like you used to maybe occasionally see a dog bowl around here or there and you thought, oh, that's cute. Like you know, dogs get thirsty during the day. They've put out a bowl for the dogs and slowly it's crept into more of a you know requirement for cafes.
Speaker 1:Dog under the table. Dog under the table.
Speaker 2:That's it. You know, there's two cafes in mind in my local um you know area in motorval, and there was a cafe that was specifically for dogs and pet owners. So if you went to this cafe, you could expect that everyone that has their dog and it was a instagram worthy place where you would go and take photos of your dog while you had your breakfast and cappa and your coffee and, yeah, dog sniffing your leg while you're eating breakfast someone else's dog that's it.
Speaker 2:I I'm not one for that. I was at the beach the other day eating my you know 50 million dollar smashed avo and eggs on toast and this big dog was wagging its tail and it was fluffy and it was flying into the air and I'm like if one hair goes on my food I'm gonna have to say something.
Speaker 1:This is ridiculous now it's a live. It's a live show, so if anyone's got a, a a comment on this, I'd love to see your comments guys. So if you're on Facebook Novak Properties Facebook you can make comments. But yeah, sorry, Cleo.
Speaker 2:No, look, I like pets, but I'm like an old-school person where pets were in the backyard. You know you had your dog in the backyard. You went to work. You came home you had a play, like they weren't everywhere where you were, as in, you know, going to the shops, going to dinner, I'm going to, you know you, like I said, to cafe everywhere. You know they were meant to protect your hats for one. They weren't companions as such. Um, that's become more of a modern thing. But yeah, you had a dog if you wanted to scare robbers away, or, you know, you had the german shepherd in the background. That was gonna, you know it was.
Speaker 2:It was big and it was the protector it was the protector and then you know you had your family dogs, like your golden retriever, and that when you have kids, that was the thing, like all these different breeds of dogs protector in another way? Yeah, yeah, still protected in another way. But all these small dogs like I'm also dumbfound. When I go to the pet shop at warrywood square, all the puppies in there are cavoodles, always cavoodles why is it dogs, huh designer dogs designer dogs, you know, and it's like I don't know why they're all cavoodles.
Speaker 2:Surely there's other, there's other breeds, there's other, they're all cavoodles. And my friend says because their pet's hypoallergenic. And I'm like okay, but you know.
Speaker 1:But where this started was this morning when I was sitting in the coffee shop. There was my beautiful wife at one chair opposite me at the table. Then there was a lovely lady next to her at the table next to me and her dog was sitting on the chair next to her sitting up at the table. And I was like, oh OK, so this is new, I don't see this a lot. And then I was like Lees, what are you thinking? Lees was like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And I'm thinking I wonder what the cafe owner thinks, because you've got to get DA approval for chairs sitting in the chair. Then people can't, other customers don't have chairs to sit on. Like you know, you shuffle table chairs around to tables. You're not going to do it if someone else's dog is on there. And then I was like, okay, it's a one-off, don't say it. Normal dog got off the chair, lady, you know, to the dog.
Speaker 1:And then another two people turn up with two more dogs, friends, man, ladies in their 60s and they put, um, their dogs on the chairs and then they gave they had like they had backpacks with what they were giving the dogs like a little bit of this little bit of that and I was just like a water bottle, but a special water bottle that you could go like that and it turned into a saucepan so you could give it to your dog. It was almost like a and I was like and okay, well, where's this going? This is going. We're going to get menus with dog items on the menu like a kid's menu. We're going to get people okay with it. We're going to get people eating at the table next to it, and it's going to be loud and I'm sort of all for for it. I don't mind it, but I do feel like there's something wrong when society is, you know, telling us to.
Speaker 2:You know, give up your chair for an elderly person on the bus, because that's respectful, and now we're going to include giving up your chair so the dog can sit there. I don't know, but I feel like somehow, that we've gone too far and where will it end? In caps.
Speaker 1:Well, you're not going to get your dog off the chair for a kid. If someone else's kid needs a seat, or if the cafe operator sees that there's a lack of seating, are they going to ask the dog owners to remove their dogs?
Speaker 2:I'd be a little bit offended if I was a dog owner with my dog on a chair well, you're paying for that coffee or that dog's menu just like everybody else, so the entitlement will definitely still be there well, not.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well, you know, I guess, if you, it's accepted in a cafe, if you're having a meal and your friend's not, and they're taking up a chair, so I guess I guess that's got to go the same way with your little pooch look, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I've not seen it yet, but where will it end? Will it be only dogs, or will cat owners be able to bring their cats or people with birds, like you know, big bird on your shoulder while it poops, or, you know, feathers are everywhere while you're eating food?
Speaker 1:I don't know hang on a second. A dog walks on the ground and its feet are on the chair and your clothes of your pants have to sit on that chair, that's okay.
Speaker 2:Well, in an ideal world they'd be all cavoodles so they wouldn't moult or hair or anything, so they would be hypoallergenic on that chair. But, every other dog no.
Speaker 1:But its paws are walking on the ground and then their paws are on the chair, and then you sit on the chair. It's in your pants.
Speaker 2:Look, hygiene is definitely a thing, no matter what you say. Say it's an animal, um, when you go to a petting zoo or anywhere, you know you hand sanitize. They tell you to wash your hands before and after you pet the pets or whatever. If a dog's allowed, like you said to, you know, we on a tree and walk in it and go around and then sit on the chair, then I don't want to sit on that chair, I don't want to. You know, put my clean black pants on and then walk away with all fur and you know crap on my pants.
Speaker 2:No, thank you in that case I would request a a pet free chair, I would say is this is this chair pet free? And so there'll be a separate section for you know, dog, dog lovers' chairs.
Speaker 1:Pet-free sections in cafes.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Forget the smokers. Put them out on the street.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, that section's for pets and owners and that section's for no pets, wow, wow. Well, you know, keep an eye on it, guys and girls, this is a real thing. And I know there's a in Sydney. There's a gelato, a pet gelato store that's just opened up, very busy, and and now it's going to be interesting because when you're being commercial agents we're often doing outdoor seating and DA approvals with tenants and stuff like that. It's going to be. It's a different landscape when you're accommodating kids, adults and now pets. I'd love to know how it goes down with council's attitude into, because I know they're a bit funny about food and pets. So how does that work, indoor or outdoor? Maybe it's acceptable outdoor and not acceptable indoor.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't prepare food with pets around. There's got to be some standard there, for sure. And that's where the grey line is. If you're eating your food and there's, you know how's that contamination different? I don't. Yeah, I'm a bit of a germaphobe myself. I love pets, I love dogs, I love all kinds of pets, but there's a place for them in my opinion, and I don't feel that a chair and giving a chair to a pet and being in a cafe is I think that's a little bit too far personally.
Speaker 1:That's my stance on that anyway, guys feel free to uh comment or like on what we're talking about today. It is an interesting topic and I know when I first saw a dog in a pram I was like, um, you know, that's that's, you know that, that's, that's, that's different. Um, especially when I saw a man who was a plumber um, that I knew pushing the pram and his wife walking alongside with the dog in there, I was like the world's changing well, you know, paris hilton normalized the pooch in the louis bag.
Speaker 2:You know, I'd never seen a little chihuahua being taken around in a in a handbag. So now you got prams. What about car seats? Maybe we've got our special dog car seats inside as well, baby, and you have to get special people to install it so the pet's not injured in collision, like I don't know, like where it's gonna end all right, have a woke day yes, have a work day. I'm gonna go get my pet free coffee this morning take it.
Speaker 1:Thanks, glios cheers. There you go, guys.